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Where does Jake Fromm already rate among Georgia’s all-time QBs?

Where does Jake Fromm already rate among Georgia’s all-time QBs?

Where does Jake Fromm already rate among Georgia’s all-time QBs?

Where does Jake Fromm already rate among Georgia’s all-time QBs?

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Could the following quote apply to Georgia junior QB Jake Fromm?

“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics.”

Mark Twain gets the credit for it. But Google has Twain borrowing that phrase from British prime minister Benjamin Disrael for the record.

Is that in any way like Fromm and the talented backfields that Georgia has brought to bear over the last two seasons? Was that (mostly) Nick Chubb and Sony Michel and D’Andre Swift and an ascending O-line there?

How much credit should Fromm get for elevating the Georgia program since he took the reins in 2017?

The All-American candidate has a sterling 24-5 record in two seasons as the quarterback of record for Georgia. That mark will include the following contests which can be defined as being true degree of difficulty games:

  • 1 National Championship game against Alabama
  • 2 SEC Championship games
  • 1 Rose Bowl against a Heisman Trophy QB and a future No. 1 overall pick
  • 1 road game against a Top 10 team in Auburn
  • 1 road game against a Top 15 team in one of the SEC’s toughest venues at LSU
  • 2 Georgia-Florida games in Jacksonville
  • 1 Sugar Bowl against Texas

Of course, the record points to the Bulldogs owning a 4-5 record in those contests. Some draw the parallel to Fromm not being able to close out those big games. A truly great quarterback would do that, right?

That’s a popular topic to some. Yet they don’t apply the same logic to the other end of that argument.  If an elite run game actually carried the Bulldogs to those big games, why is Fromm’s resume saddled with not being out to close out those big ones?

Is he a first-round pick? The NFL scouting opinions do seem to vary. Of course, those talking parts are all highly subjective.

Opinions will vary across the Georgia fan base with that, too. Those “damned” statistics are a lot less subjective. Those are just cold hard numbers.

Check out the roll call of things that Fromm has done so far in the SEC in what should be the two worst years for any college quarterback. When placed against the backdrop of the greatest QBs in Georgia history, his stat profile already holds up with the best to ever play the position at Georgia.

That matter appears to be a lot less subjective.

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Former Georgia QB Aaron Murray is clearly one of the program’s all-time greats at that position. (Jason Getz/AJC file photo)

SEC Titles

(Starting QBs that led their teams to this feat at UGA)

SEC championship QBs No.
Buck Belue (1980, 1981) 2
Johnny Rauch (1946, 1948) 2
*8 others (Jake Fromm and eight others 1

Fromm has put together two strong seasons, but the rest of his career remains to be seen. Perhaps the only proper statistical tool is to look at where Fromm stands compared to some of the all-time greats at Georgia after the first two years in Athens.

For the purposes of this exercise, some might send some four-letter words this way when they see Georgia greats like Zeke Bratkowski, Mike Cavan, Ray Goff, Andy Johnson, Johnny Rauch and Fran Tarkenton missing from this comparison.

The matter at hand is that 1980 national championship Buck Belue played in a different era of college football and his time was already 39 years ago. It is an even bigger leap for a lot of those all-timers.

Tarkenton only threw for 2,100 yards and 18 TDs in his three-year Georgia career after redshirting as a freshman. If someone was able to devise a formula to adjust those numbers to 2019 standards in the same manners we see with inflation, it would be an interesting find.

That said, there are a number of notable Georgia QBs who competed in the modern era of SEC football where it was no small thing to see a quarterback attempt 25 passes every Saturday afternoon.

It is a tough list. Georgia’s Mike Bobo, who only threw for more than 2,500 yards and 15 touchdowns one time in his career, does not even crack it.

Where does Fromm rank so far among the likes of Quincy Carter, David Greene, Aaron Murray, Matthew Stafford and Eric Zeier? ( NOTE: Murray and Greene had redshirt seasons before they emerged to claim the starting job.)


(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  Completions
Aaron Murray (2010-11) 447
David Greene (2001-02) 410
Quincy Carter (1998-99) 392
Jake Fromm (2017-18) 388
Eric Zeier (1991-92) 310
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 229


(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  Attempts
Aaron Murray (2010-11) 745
David Greene (2001-02) 703
Quincy Carter (1998-99) 670
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 604
Jake Fromm (2017-2018) 598
Eric Zeier (1991-1992) 544


(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great Yards
Aaron Murray (2010-11) 6,198
David Greene (2001-02) 5,713
Jake Fromm (2017-18) 5,376
Quincy Carter (1998-1999) 5,197
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 4,272
Eric Zeier (1991-1992) 4,232

Completion percentage

(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  Pct. 
Jake Fromm (2017-18) 64.9%
Aaron Murray (2010-2011) 60.0%
Quincy Carter (1998-99) 59.0%
David Greene (2001-2002) 58.5%
Eric Zeier (1991-92) 57.5%
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 54.5%

Won-loss record at QB

(as primary QB after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  W-L
Jake Fromm (2017-18) 24-5
David Greene (2001-02) 21-5
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 18-4
Eric Zeier (1991-92) 19-5
Quincy Carter (1998-1999) 17-7
Aaron Murray (2010-2011) 16-11

Touchdown-to-interception ratio

(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  TD/INT
Jake Fromm (2017-18) 54/13
Aaron Murray (2010-2011) 59/22
David Greene (2001-2002) 39/17
Quincy Carter (1998-1999) 29/15
Eric Zeier (1991-1992) 19/16
Matthew Stafford (2006-2007) 26/23

Average yards per attempt

(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  Completions
Jake Fromm (2017-18) 9.0
Aaron Murray (2010-2011) 8.6
David Greene (2001-2002) 8.1
Quincy Carter (1998-1999) 7.9
Eric Zeier (1991-1992) 7.8
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 6.0

QB rating

(after their first two seasons)

All-time UGA great QBs  QBR
Jake Fromm (2017-2018) 165.2
Aaron Murray (2010-2011) 150.5
David Greene (2001-2002) 140.3
Quincy Carter (1998-1999) 134.3
Eric Zeier (1991-92) 128.0
Matt Stafford (2006-2007) 118.5
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Former UGA great David Greene held the NCAA all-time wins record for a starting QB when he finished his career in Athens. That mark has since been broken.(UGA photo)

Enough with the statistics, right?

Sometimes smart folks can make them dance around or bend in whichever way to make a point. That critique might even apply here. The clear logical arguments are that Fromm has played on great teams, but it can be safely argued that Greene and Zeier played on some of the best ones of the last 40 years at Georgia during these sample size, too.

Georgia will also always have players. Especially skill players on offense to help a quarterback move the ball and score points. It can even be said that every one of this quarterbacks on this listing has played with an all-time great WR at Georgia during one of their first two seasons.

The same cannot be said about Fromm.

With all of that, there is another metric worth a visit here. We can scan names like Greene, Murray and Stafford and yet none of those columns were able to show off their best years as Bulldogs.

What were their best seasons like? How do those compare to what DawgNation has seen out of Fromm? That will be our last task here. ( NOTE: When scanning these numbers it is important to consider that Carter and Zeier both competed in the world of 11-game regular seasons.) 

QB rating

(Career season)

All-time UGA great  QBR
Aaron Murray (2012) 174.8
Jake Fromm (2018) 171.3
Matthew Stafford (2009) 153.5
David Greene (2004) 148.4
Eric Zeier (1993) 148.3
Quincy Carter (1998) 140.1

Touchdown-to-Interception ratio

(Career season)

All-time UGA great  TD/INT
Jake Fromm (2017) 30/6
David Greene (2004) 20/4
Aaron Murray (2012) 36/10
Quincy Carter (1999) 17/6
Eric Zeier (19993) 24/7
Matt Stafford (2008) 25/10

Average yards per attempt

(Career season)

All-time UGA great  QBR
Aaron Murray (2012) 10.1
Jake Fromm (2017 and 2018) 9.0
Matthew Stafford (2012) 9.0
Eric Zeier (1992) 8.7
David Greene (2001) 8.6
Quincy Carter (1998) 8.0

Completion percentage

(Career season)

All-time UGA great Pct. 
Jake Fromm (2018) 67.4%
Aaron Murray (2013) 64.8%
Eric Zeier (1993) 63.3%
Matt Stafford (2008) 61.4%
Quincy Carter (1998) 60.7%
David Greene (2003) 60.3%

Passing yards

(Career season)

All-time UGA great Yards. 
Aaron Murray (2012) 3,893
Matthew Stafford (2008) 3,525
Eric Zeier (1993) 3,525
David Greene (2003) 3,307
Jake Fromm (2018)  2,761
Quincy Carter (1999) 2,713

For those who feel the ultimate arbiter of a quarterback is leading his team to championships, then Fromm is only one of four quarterbacks in history to steer the Bulldogs to a final game which went on to determine the national champion.

A closing opinion on Jake Fromm

This seems the time to offer up to address the “game manager” label with Fromm. CBS lead analyst Gary Danielson went to great lengths to debunk that topic prior around the SEC Championship Game last December.

That term is overused in football today. A “game manager” applies to a quarterback who guides their team with effective play. They will offer up overwhelming physical tools and are a part of teams where a stifling defense and an impressive ground game is leaned on to win the big ones.

That signal caller isn’t asked to do more than protect the ball and preserve field position. For those that have been watching, that is not the way that Fromm has operated at Georgia.

The ball he completed to Riley Ridley for a touchdown against Alabama in the 2018 SEC Championship contest is an indicator of that. His stat line (25-of-39 for 301 yards, 3 TDSs, O INTs) from that night against Alabama is another clear example.

Fromm has been a “win manager” more than anything else. The “game manager” will play smart and efficient football but is limited when they are forced to make a play. The execution is not there to build a game plan around them. That’s why their coaches don’t ask them to do too much.

The “win manager” term points to a guy who does all the things that can beat a team but doesn’t have the offensive coordinator ready to eat his visor in the booth. That guy can win a game with his arm and the way he breaks down a defense.

It also seems likely a “game manager” archetype would not possess the skill set to send two players with more of those classic NFL first-rounder physical tools to the transfer portal. There is no stat column for that, but Fromm has also achieved that, too.

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  • ATHENS Georgia basketball sophomore Mike Peake has entered the NCAA transfer portal, according to multiple sources. The 6-foot-8, 220-pound Peake was a late addition to last year's class, signing in August out of Blue Valley Northwest High School in Overland Park, Kans. Peake played in 24 of 32 games last season, including the final 12 contests, averaging 9 minutes per outing with 2.3 points and 2 rebounds. Peake scored a career-high 8 points in the season-opening game against Delaware State and pulled down a season-high 6 rebounds in a season high 23 minutes against South Carolina on Feb. 26. Peake's departure brings the Bulldogs' roster down to 13 scholarship players. RELATED: Georgia adds big V-Tech center, over scholarship limit Georgia added Virginia Tech graduate transfer center P.J. Horne last week. Horne, a 6-6, 225-pounder, averaged 7.6 points and 4.2 rebounds per game last season. UGA Coach Tom Crean DawgNation Georgia basketball WATCH: Tom Crean opens up, tells all on UGA basketball Bulldogs upset Ole Miss in SEC tourney opener Anthony Edwards takes over final minute, UGA topples Arkansas WATCH: Georgia celebrates like crazy after Vandy win Bulldogs score resounding win over No. 13 Auburn UGA snaps four-game losing streak with Texas A&M win Perplexing loss for Georgia basketball at Missouri Georgia comes up short in hard-fought loss at Kentucky Sahvir Wheeler on clutch game-winner, 'been there a ton of times' Anthony Edwards lights up Michigan State for 37 in 93-85 loss The post Georgia basketball sophomore enters transfer portal appeared first on DawgNation.
  • Georgia already had the nation's No. 1 recruiting class for the 2020 cycle. Yet there's a chance it could go to another level with the addition of 5-star CB Tony Grimes. Let's simply couch the thinking here by saying there's a chance it could happen at this time. It could happen for Georgia or North Carolina or Ohio State or Texas A&M, too. Those were the four programs the nation's No. 1 CB prospect for 2021 (247Sports Composite) released as his top 4 schools on Sunday night. Grimes, who was already set to enroll early in January of 2021, is currently probing the possibility of summer graduation and enrolling at the school of his choice in August. That would make him a tremendous late addition to the 2020 recruiting class for one of those four programs. The reason? His father Deon Glover told DawgNation on Wednesday evening it would be because there's a chance that his Princess Anne program (Virginia Beach, Va.) might not have a football season this fall due to the novel coronavirus. Glover feels that his son would be able to reclassify as a class of 2020 recruit if that unfortunate situation presented itself. 'He could have graduated last year,' Glover told DawgNation on Wednesday evening. 'We pushed one class into this year so he could play his senior season. He only needs one class. He can take that online and be done in a month.' That's actually the same path that incoming Georgia Bulldog J.T. Daniels did as a reclassified prospect who joined the USC football program in the summer of 2018. That came after just three varsity seasons of high school football for Daniels. The 6-foot-1, 180-pound Grimes ranks as the nation's No. 1 CB for 2021 and the No. 7 overall prospect for 2021 on the 247Sports Composite ratings. RELATED: 5-star Tony Grimes is a special player both on and off the field If that presents itself to be the case, then the chance to play early doesn't look the same at Georgia as it does for the 2021 season. Grimes is a special talent, but there are three cornerbacks returning to the team this fall for what look to be their resume seasons to enhance their status as a future top 60 pick in the 2021 NFL Draft. Junior Tyson Campbell, Senior D.J. Daniel and redshirt junior Eric Stokes, Jr. all have that potential and the vast playing experience for the Bulldogs during the 2019 season as part of the nation's top-ranked scoring defense. Georgia also signed the nation's No. 1 cornerback for the 2020 cycle in former 5-star Kelee Ringo, too. DAWGNATION RECRUITING (the recent reads on DawgNation.com) Kirby Smart's comments of the 2021 recruiting cycle thus far laced with empathy and uncertainty Nation's No. 1 CB prospect Tony Grimes places UGA among his top four schools BREAKING: All-American OL Dylan Fairchild has made his college decision Brock Vandagriff: How does that family feel about the JT Daniels transfer? The JT Daniels to Georgia buzz seems very real BREAKING: Elite 2022 DB Marquis Groves-Killebrew commits to UGA Who is Chaz Chambliss? Carrollton staff shares the goods on the new Bulldog commit BREAKING: Chaz Chambliss commits to Georgia football Taking a deep dive at how well Georgia has been recruiting Metro Atlanta of late Elite 2022 defensive athlete Daniel Martin already has a 'family' feel at UGA Brock Bowers: Nation's No. 3 TE knows what he needs to do before his college decision De'Jahn Warren: The 'nugget' for the nation's No. 1 JUCO prospect with UGA Decrypting that recent tweet from 5-star LB Smael Mondon Jr. Prince Kollie: The ILB target who had 1,085 yards as a receiver in 2019 Lovasea Carroll: DawgNation goes one-on-one with the 2021 RB commit The post Tony Grimes: Big potential development looms with the nation's No. 1 CB for 2021 appeared first on DawgNation.
  • ATHENS Gene Stallings took time Wednesday to share his feelings on two men he was once hired to beat, revealing friendships that pre-dated rivalries. Stallings, 85, coached at Alabama from 1990-1996, overlapping with former Auburn coach Pat Dye (1981-1992) and former Tennessee coach John Majors (1977-1992). RELATED: Former Georgia All-American Pat Dye dies Dye passed away on Tuesday at the age of 80 years old, and Majors died on Wednesday at 85. Iron Bowl Friendship 'Pat Dye and I have been friends for a long time, let me tell you two or three things about Pat,' Stallings, who still lives on his ranch in Paris, Texas, said in a phone interview on Wednesday. 'We competed against each other in games and also recruiting, and we never had a cross word. 'Pat always conducted himself as a gentlemen. He was very competitive, his teams played well.' Stallings and Dye served together on the board for Great Southern Wood for more than 20 years. The two had gone on a hunting trip together last year with former UGA quarterback and head coach Ray Goff. Dye replaced Stallings on Paul 'Bear' Bryant's Alabama coaching staff as an assistant in 1965. Stallings left the staff to become head coach at Texas A&M, before his 14 years on Tom Landry's Dallas Cowboys' coaching staff (1972-85). Stallings returned to the SEC as the Tide's head coach in 1990 after a stint as the St. Louis/Phoenix Cardinals head coach in the NFL. By then, Dye had taken over as Auburn's head coach (1981) after stints at East Carolina (1974-79) and Wyoming (1980) and put the Tigers' program 'on the marquee.' Dye had, in fact, changed the course of the Auburn-Alabama rivalry. The Tigers had won four straight over Alabama for the first time in almost 30 years before Stallings snapped the streak his first year back in Tuscaloosa. Dye, also acting as Auburn athletic director, also persuaded the Tigers' boosters to playing the 'Iron Bowl' in Auburn rather than Birmingham where the gamehad traditionally been played dating back to 1904. 'That had been done before I got back, but if it were up to me, I'm not sure I would have changed it,' Stallings told DawgNation, asked about going to a home-and-home. 'I think it was a good thing they changed it. But when Pat retired (1992), we were still playing the game (in Alabama home years) in Birmingham.' Third Saturday Handshake Alabama was also playing its home games against Tennessee in Birmingham, rather than Tuscaloosa, when Stallings coached the Tide to the 1992 national championship. Alabama had to get through Majors and the Vols in Knoxville that season, gutting out a 17-10 win in a rivalry Stallings said was at times more fierce than Auburn, despite his friendship with Majors. 'Johnny was an assistant coach at (Mississippi State), when I was coaching at Alabama,' Stallings recalled. 'We would meet together in Nashville and we would recruit, and then we'd meet together and have dinner that night. 'I've always loved and appreciated Johnny Majors. One of the things he did, he raised his grandson. Johnny took the grandson and raised him like he was is and I always appreciated Johnny for that.' Stallings' family priorities have been well documented. He authored the book 'Another Season: A Coach's Story of Raising an Exceptional Son.' The writing is about Stallings' relationship with his late son, John Mark, who was born with Down syndrome and a hear defect. But on the football field, Stallings, Dye and Majors were all business. 'When the game gets started, you don't worry about who is coach on the other side of the field, you get ready for the team, not the coach,' Stallings said. 'When my team played Coach Bryant, I loved Coach Bryant, but when the game got underway, it was Texas A&M playing against Alabama. 'It was the same thing with Johnny. We were friends, and I showed him respect.' Rivalry perspective The Tennessee game, like the Auburn game, was historically a big deal and many still feel the same way. 'Coach Bryant, he had rather beat Tennessee than Auburn in those early years,' said Stallings, who played for Bryant at Texas A&M before serving as an assistant under him. 'I know things have a tendency to change, but he really got the team ready to play Tennessee. Auburn was not a great team in those years, and then Pat (Dye) put them on the marquee. 'But before that, we'd get ready for Tennessee two weeks before the game. 'If you're going to be accepted at the University of Alabama, you have to beat Tennessee, you have to beat Auburn, and eventually you have to win the national championship.' Stallings went 3-0 at Alabama against Dye and Majors some three decades ago en route to joining them in the College Football Hall of Fame. On Wednesday, he mourned losing both of them. The post Alabama legend Gene Stallings reflects on friends Pat Dye and Johnny Majors appeared first on DawgNation.
  • It seems like fourscore and four news cycles ago when Georgia football coach Kirby Smart joined the beat reporter corps on Zoom last Thursday. It came before a weekend when America's attention shifted away from the novel coronavirus to Minneapolis. There were the actions of peaceful protestors and then those not-so-civil activists. It turned our heads away from the policies which would be in place this week for the return of Georgia's players to Athens to begin preparations for the 2020 season . This week marks a rite of passage for every new season.The UGA signees from the 2020 signing class that did not enroll early are officially moving away from home to join the program and campus life in Athens, too. In the midst of all of that, the Bulldogs were also able to add another former 5-star QB prospect to first-year offensive coordinator Todd Monken's room. That JT Daniels stuff took on a life of its own, too. Those events eclipsed a lot of what Smart said on that Thursday morning visit with the beat reporters who cover the UGA team on a regular basis. It was specifically interesting what Smart had to say about recruiting. 'First off, it's extremely different,' the fifth-year head coach said. 'The recruiting world has changed as much as anything because you're just not capable of going to high schools.' He did not duck the obvious there. When we come to think of it, the Georgia staff has basically had three full weeks (weekends included) of on-campus recruiting in 2020. That's now into the first week of June. Those were the last three weekends in January. That was followed by the National Signing Day for the 2020 class in the first week of February, but then another dead period for the rest of that month. Georgia only had a small number of unofficial visitors on campus in March. The Bulldogs were taking advantage of spring break before ramping up to roll the welcome mat out after the first weekend in March. Spring drills would be underway and the months of March and April would be big for visitors. 'We would be going out watching spring practices, going school-to-school,' Smart told the UGA beat on Thursday. 'I wouldn't be able to because I don't get to go out in May, so that didn't really change for me, but it changed for a lot of our coaches. We've done what you guys know to be the case. There's no magic potion. There's nobody doing something magically that everybody else isn't doing. We're jumping on Zoom. We're communicating with parents, coaches, recruitswe're doing everything virtually, and that's really the best we can do.' The staff was set to go on the road from April 15 to May 30 to further evaluate the top 2021, 2022 and 2023 prospects during their own spring practices.The pandemic made sure none of that took place. Throw away that calendar. The NCAA also shared word last week that all on-campus recruiting would still be halted until July 31. too. Division I Council Coordination Committee extends recruiting dead period: https://t.co/kxNibUf3B2 pic.twitter.com/0cRcTbrxQp Inside the NCAA (@InsidetheNCAA) May 27, 2020 'They keep extending the period that you can't come on campusthe ability to come on campus, they just extended that, so it's looking like that's not going to happen through the end of July,' Smart said. 'So, it's going to be a very different May-June-July period and that's unique. Who manages that the best will be importanta lot of this is who had the best relationships leading into this because, at the end of the day, you can only develop so much of a relationship through a phone, through a text, through a virtual activity. We've tried to be creative in the way we use that. I'm certainly not going to divulge everything we've done because I don't think that's open for everybody to do, and I think we're all competing in the SEC, trying to make ourselves different.' Did you know the weekly DawgNation.com 'Before the Hedges' program is now available as an Apple podcast? Click to check it out and download. Georgia football: Kirby Smart continues to empathize with recruits The Bulldogs are certainly not lacking in the recruiting department. They never will be under this staff. Despite those obstacles, the Bulldogs still have the No. 13 overall recruiting class on the well-respected 247Sports Team Composite rankings.That ranking was boosted by the commitments of All-American Georgia prospects Chaz Chambliss and Dylan Fairchild over the last week. That gave the Bulldogs nine commits for the 2021 cycle. It comes while still showing remarkable restraint in not taking commitments from prospects the staff still felt like it needed further in-person or more senior year film for a complete evaluation. When it comes to those national team rankings, there'snot a single team above the Bulldogs that does not have at least two more verbal commitments at this time. The number of commitments those schools have on UGA at this time is even markedly higher than that in some cases. The average number of pledges for the top 12 comes out to 15.8 commits per school. Georgia is well-positioned based on the fact that the average 247Sports Composite rating of each of its commitments currently stands at 94.05. That's a focus on quality rather than an impressive volume of commitments at this time. Tennesse sits at No. 2 overall due in large part to its 24 commitments, but those prospects merit an average individual player rating of 89.73.Ohio State has the No. 1 class right now due to its average rating of 95.34 for each of its 18 commitments. Clemson also has a mean rating of 94.55 for each of its 13 pledges. Smart wonders about the effects on the 2021 recruits in general with all of this downtime. The alpha recruiters on every major Power 5 staff have had nothing consequential to do over the last three months except focus on the core recruits on the board. 'I can tell you this: it's probably created a bigger burden on our recruits, and if I was a recruit or a recruit's parent, I would be more concerned with that volume of virtual usage and phone usage, and it's probably led to more kids committing because you can make the case that they're committing because they can't go anywhere,' Smart said. 'I would make the case that they're sick and tired of being barraged by phone calls and virtual activities.' National recruiting analyst Bud Elliott of 247Sports continues to do an admirable job tracking the number of 2021 commitments to this point and comparing it to previous the same timestamp in previous cycles. Morning of May 30: 913 Last year's class on this date: 390 The gap grew again. https://t.co/plzt0mRvXT Bud Elliott (@BudElliott3) May 30, 2020 Will this class just be different? Or will the real recruiting cycle for the 2021 class take place in the span of just seven months? Could we see official visits in August in the thick of fall practices? When prospects do get the NCAA green light to return to campus again, it will mean they will have less than five months before the first day of the early signing period to figure out where they want to go. That same condensed time frame will also influence the schools handing out these scholarships, too. Smart wondered what that might lead to. 'Will we see more kids come November or December de-commit, or go back and start visiting?' Smart said. 'I don't know because I don't know when we'll be able to bring kids to campus. All that will probably come out at the end of July when we know more about what kids are going to be able to do in recruiting.' DAWGNATION RECRUITING (the recent reads on DawgNation.com) Nation's No. 1 CB prospect Tony Grimes places UGA among his top four schools BREAKING: All-American OL Dylan Fairchild has made his college decision Brock Vandagriff: How does that family feel about the JT Daniels transfer? The JT Daniels to Georgia buzz seems very real BREAKING: Elite 2022 DB Marquis Groves-Killebrew commits to UGA Who is Chaz Chambliss? Carrollton staff shares the goods on the new Bulldog commit BREAKING: Chaz Chambliss commits to Georgia football Taking a deep dive at how well Georgia has been recruiting Metro Atlanta of late Elite 2022 defensive athlete Daniel Martin already has a 'family' feel at UGA Brock Bowers: Nation's No. 3 TE knows what he needs to do before his college decision De'Jahn Warren: The 'nugget' for the nation's No. 1 JUCO prospect with UGA Decrypting that recent tweet from 5-star LB Smael Mondon Jr. Prince Kollie: The ILB target who had 1,085 yards as a receiver in 2019 Lovasea Carroll: DawgNation goes one-on-one with the 2021 RB commit The post Georgia football: Kirby Smart's comments on the 2021 recruiting cycle laced with empathy, uncertainty appeared first on DawgNation.
  • ATHENS Hutson Mason admits he was as surprised as anyone last week when news dropped that former Southern Cal quarterback J.T. Daniels intended to transfer to Georgia. 'I wasn't so much surprised he chose Georgia (over Tennessee and Michigan), I was more so surprised that Georgia wasn't looking for another quarterback,' Mason, a former Bulldogs' quarterback, told DawgNation. 'Kirby is in an interesting spot with Jake Fromm gone . ' Interesting, for sure. Quarterback Derby The Bulldogs return 80 percent of the production off a championship caliber defense while reloading on the other side of the football with offensive gurus Todd Monken and Matt Luke. Daniels, should he be granted a waiver for immediate eligibility, would jump into a five-man quarterback derby. WATCH: USC beat writer shares inside info on JT Daniels Wake Forest graduate transfer Jamie Newman appears to be the favorite to start, but there's also D'Wan Mathis (redshirt freshman), Carson Beck (freshman) and Stetson Bennett (redshirt junior). Mason said he doesn't think UGA's tentative offensive blueprint would need to drastically change course with Daniels under center. USC has also run a Pro Style version of the spread with RPO concepts. 'One of the things I was surprised by when I was watching tape on him, he's far more nimble and shifty and elusive in the picket than I thought,' Mason said. 'I think he's far more athletic than Jake . 'That was the first thing that stuck out to me. I would see a clip where the pocket collapsed and would normally be a sack or a negative play last year for Jake, and for me, he gets out of. He turns what should be a sack into a 4-yard pickup, or he extends the play and makes something out of nothing.' Questionable Knee Mason said as much as he liked on tape, there's a question if Daniels will possess the same mobility if he's playing in a knee brace after suffering a torn ACL in last season's opening game. 'I don't know if he will be the same in the pocket and escape a lot of things because that knee brace is extremely restrictive on quarterbacks,' Mason said. 'I tried to wear one because a lot of offensive coordinators in college have the theory that they want their quarterback to wear one to protect their knee from the blind side.' Quarterback injuries have become more common as the speed of the game has increased and more teams have spread the field. Mason, himself, has experience attempting to play in a precautionary knee brace. 'I tried fiddling around with it a coupe springs, and I was like 'I hate this,' it's like a peg leg, you literally feel like you have one leg,' Mason said. 'So that that was my concern if he's coming off that knee injury and he has to wear a knee brace, will he ever be the nimble guy in the pocket that I saw on tape?' First Look Mason, who quarterbacked Georgia to a 10-3 record in 2014 and now provides analysts on Atlanta's WCNN-AM 680 'The Fan,' went directly to the archives upon hearing Daniels was heading to Athens. Hearing about a player is one thing, but seeing him and evaluating him in game action, is another. Mason provided a video breakdown of Daniels on Twitter last week. @GeorgiaFootball adds another 5 QB in JT Daniels. The more tape I watch of him the more impressed I become. pic.twitter.com/yEgWPkLdqH Hutson Mason (@HMason14) May 29, 2020 'I believe the two most important traits are accuracy and tight windows, that's why I chose that clip,' Mason said. 'And, it was functional arm strength. A lot of people think arm strength is how far can you throw the ball in a straight line, and that'a a huge misconception. 'It's more of when the pocket collapses, and you have a messy pocket, with somebody at your feet and you can't step into the throw, do you still have enough functional arm strength to get the ball down the field?' NCAA Waiver It has yet to be determined if Daniels will be seen on the field this season, as the will need the NCAA to grant him a waiver for immediate eligibility similar to the one Miami's Tate Martell received when leaving Ohio State. 'I'm sure Kirby's pitch was, We are a quarterback position away from being a national champion,' that's what I believe Kirby's pitch to him was,' Mason said. 'That's pretty enticing. 'I think the program is selling itself, and that was probably more of the angle. But I was surprised, because it seems like, man,'how much more room do you have for quarterbacks?' Time will tell. Georgia players have started arriving back on campus with voluntary workouts set to begin next Monday. DawgNation JT Daniels stories Georgia getting accurate, cerebral' quarterback in JT Daniels Addition of JT Daniels continues UGA inroads into California Breaking down the angles of JT Daniels' addition Details emerge on USC transfer JT Daniels Kirby Smart addresses new normal routine for players The post WATCH: First look at new Georgia quarterback JT Daniels from Hutson Mason appeared first on DawgNation.